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I don't believe we are the only individuals who have considered Time as a factor.
Hi
Curious to see where this can go and how you make use of time. 1 element of time I use is time stops. For instance, how much time do we allow a place whether it doesn't appear to be demonstrating itself in either way to devour? Once we had it I started a thread from the Trading Room along with a few of the answers made me think about time in more ways than easy time stops. The thread (very short) is here.
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In case this doesn't in any manner dovetail with what you are leading up to, then go right ahead and delete this, or I will without feeling slighted. I'm all for maintaining the thread concentrated.
Like I'd delete a response from you. Thanks BF I know your name and have forwarded it to the appropriate authoroti... yeay yeay, but I had you going for a moment there, did you ch the Time Element?Quote:
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It's a pertinent and integral part of the S#it we do Nevertheless, as Nevertheless, I really don't have the Codex.
Working on it.
Does not matter. They have already got my number but have too many bigger fish to fry.Quote:
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I'm sure you've used F and P charts or at least played together. To mepersonally, F and P gets rid of everything I call time noise. If price is not moving we do not see it . This hides the regular recurring phases of non-activity--late NY session, late Asia session, etc.. In 1 way, it is to our benefit--those periods of inactivity are not exactly the same as indecision and depending on method and interval, should be dismissed.
However, in the shorter term we stay out through those inactive periods and make our decisions based on the management of the upcoming new semester, which is probably a reaction to the previous semester.
Therefore, my question to youpersonally, as I'm sure you've filled in a couple of F and P charts by hand: Do you see a benefit in reduction of time noise that F and P charts might offer us? Or do you think they eliminate something useful.
To be truthful Bill, I have probably looked @ Point Figure a couple of dozen times during the last decade or so.Quote:
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Point being.
I would appreciate your understanding of how it helps you in discovering your Timing.
Trying to work on some images to populate the other thread but can't dismiss dieties like this man
(yeah, I suggest you billflet)
Think about this.
I'm Extended using a TP 120 P over Entry. I enjoy where I Got In, Price raced 80 in my favor but that was two hours ago. Now what?
I'm Extended using a TP 120 P over Entry. I enjoy where I Got In, Price crawled along for two hours or so before breaking up 80 in my own favour. Now what?
I'm Extended using a TP 120 P over Entry. I enjoy where I Got In, Price has not proceeded for two hours or so I'm Beginning to reevaluate My Trade. Now what?
2 Hours could just as readily be two Min, two Days, Weeks or Months.
That is all about The Other Factor of if You Cancell a Trade.
It may not be Just about Pips.
Scenario:
I'm In I'm Extended.
6Hrs later; I'm up two pips. that's wonderfull if it has not swayed 80 during those 6 hrs.
It's Old like me I understand but Timing Relates into Time.
This thread is a search to pull the curtain back.
I are inclined to lean toward Hold a creeper, let go of a leaperQuote:
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The first scenario: I'd be anticipating a fast retrace of at least part of the 80 pip leap. So, I'd be likely get out happy and expect another fantastic entry if price continued up. Once I get nervous I loathe to tighten stops. If I were up 80 pips and tightened my halt to 15 or so, I'd feel certain of giving back 15 pips.
Secondly scenario: I enjoy creepers, so I'd have more confidence in this and would hold.
Third situation: If I were trading 15 min I had bail. 30 min--I'd be getting close to bailing. 60 minutes or more, I'd give more time to it.
The reason for these options is this: If price does not move in 5 candles at the time frame I entered on, I think my analysis was offmy expectancy is disappearing and I'm getting closer to some coin-toss entry. But...I need to consider time of day. If I got a entry in the West session, or overdue NY morning, then I'd be anticipating price to languish. It would need to be an attractive entry to drag me in during these hours though.
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It is something I came up with two years ago. It is looks fine and does it's job but I've moved to other methods. I called it a parabolic stop.
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Jr97 will remember this pic, to the own consideration. Principles for 3d projection.
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Thats kinda cool. swagger swagger like it's not absoflogginlutly interesting intriguing.
How can you do that?
C'mon marijuana; spill the beens sp correct
I'd welcome any additional thoughts I know you have had a few.
Will Be the Reds Front to Back Containment Countries?
Can you hook this Chamber to Any Pub?
If not; how can you determine where it lives?
Please specify Green Cyan elipses. That might help.
Ah yes. Brilliant. Since the is out of the bag I will consider throwing up some of my construction work.Quote:
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There has been a time once I strained my mind trying to find a grip on 3 dimensional charting, what is now is incapable of measuring or drawing a 3d axis, as you need the capacity to modify orientation, the pic has been an endeavor to illue what needed to be quantified ideally and has been drawn Mt4, basically copying ellipses and likes.
The ideal grip on 3d charting that I have been able to incorporate into my trading would be by using pitch championships, the problem arises when you try to count time as the angle representing the movement of price is not moving directly sideways. Shown below is a good example. Count out at a technique that is static and counting techniques try to establish count.
However, what if movement is 3d and we need to plot onto a x,y and z axis? In the example below price passing you, slightly and is currently shifting towards you. Here we measure the time on the vector depending on price from point A and the midpoint bisecting points B and C.
Imho, price moves in circular movements, or when traveling through space price could be contained in a tube, onto a two dimensional chart it would be viewed as a station if you can imagine it. It could be viewed as a wedge or cone as the cylinder grows smaller as it melts at a space if it moved away.
But straight lines aren't exactly the ideal method to describe price action; a wise trader once told me you can#8217;t walk a straight line through the woods, if you don't want to bump your face many times. When a price channel breaks down it usually gives birth to a new station, failure space with a new supporting/resistance line copied from the other side of the station 8230;. . Isn#8217 the rough description of an arc or ellipse, basically a movement?
If you could chart in a 3 dimensional Cartesian coordinate system you could be able to determine the equation of a movement, into the apex of its curve, that should equate to exactly what we'd see as the reversal point.
But it#8217;s hard enough for me to make money on a 2d chart, let along try to plot in 3d. The fork measure would be the finest I#8217;t come up with, it#8217;s roots are in Makula and Andrews.
@ JR97 there8217;s no to let out, just thought I#8217;d throw my two cents out there, hopefully the discussion will spark someone to venture further with it, as I#8217;t lost the excitement for these studies.
Hope it will help #8230;
Best of luck.
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You may have sojourned to additional paths but I'd really like to get you back on this one.Quote:
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Time is a view. That stays steady. It, however, may not be consistant. Only a thought
Consequently the PTV.Quote:
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This problem also alludes to a different problem I ran in that normal chart settings like 1h, 15m, 5m, etc. might be the most suitable measurement in significance to the price . Sort of like using a grid meters up feet over the other and one side.
BTW, there is about $1000 worth of book knowledge in these diagr. Thank you for sharing. Sorry to hear you've lost the enthusiasm. It's what keeps me interested in the sport as you know. Otherwise I go play poker.
I've only been toying with P and F recently. However they seem to eliminate the time element of charting. When price moves backward on candle/line/bar charts, it simply stops on the P and F charts. This, to me, provides a truer trendline, especially on shorter term charts during the times of day which I mentioned before.Quote:
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I did not understand how time sway was likely to be discussed here until now. I will not clutter the thread further with F discussions and P. I am glad to see references to Pitchforks though. Now I know I'll be able to understand of what is happening here at least a few splinters.
So much wisdom and years of research in this article, a. I need to remark on this part because I believe most people will completely miss a major link here. Even the ellipse, parabola, and so the ring (special instance of the ellipse) and the hyperbola are all conic sections. A section is basically a airplane or 2d piece of a multi-dimensional object. The relationship I believe people will not get is that Hexagon the Gann Sq9, and some other shape will spell out quadratics or parabolic growth/decay. So while the 3D nature isn't always feasible to be attracted with a line in 2D space, it can be applied mathmatically into the chart.Quote:
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To quote Gann about the hexagon chart:
In future posts I can go more into this and reveal real practical trading appliions of some easy parabolic ideas. There are a few examples in my blog(s). http://www.time-traders.com and http://4xcycletrader.blogspot.com.Quote:
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I did a few ellipse work in this thread: https://forexintuitive.com/discussio...pivot-egy.html
And I have studied a lot of the exact same stuff for ages. Him more than me. But I can remark about the ellipse. They're not just hooked to any swing high/low. They're measurements of segments of 4D structures. In which I talked about the 4th D motion that is being getting back to my post from the thread. . And this is getting a little into regions I actually did not want to get a lot to. . It can carve out a course if some thing is in motion. Your point of monitoring will determine what the route that is carved will look like.Quote:
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For instance, take a slinky and examine the mouth right on. You will notice a circle. Look at it and you'll notice an ellipse. Now stretch out the slinky and join it end to end to produce a major donut or torus. The windings represent the path of motion that's contained inside the construction that is slinky. Any piece will be elliptical in nature (directly on being the special case of this ellipse aka the circle) So knowing that price is an object in motion, then the ellipse may map containment out. The reason price is jumping all around the place on a 2D chart is since the point of monitoring changes as the face of the structure rotates to and out of perspective. Then throw in spinning. Sounds imposible to measure, but Brad Cowan's publication 4 Dimensional Market Structures reveals it mathmatically. It's quite tough to apply consistently on anything smaller than the daily chart nor the practical. After years of extensive work with the ellipse, in reality I have more or less shelved it since if it is not appropriate, then it can be so wrong.
I simply have to add how excited I am to find posts from. I've learned a lot from him over the years. Good to you see energetic, B.
A couple of friends from work and were discussing 3D charting and that is what we came up with.
We all understand what a candle looks like. It has open high low close, but it does not reveal you for just how long the candle stayed at a certain price. So what we came up with is that the z axis would reveal how long a currency stayed at a certain price in a candle or just how many ticks occured at a certain price in a candle. This is what it'd look like:
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obviously, it's a simple drawing and does not offer a great example, but you may get a basic idea of what I'm discussing. Basically, the larger the bar, the more the price stayed at that time or even the more ticks happened at that price.
It was only an idea we had and it sounds cool. Obviously you could not use it with a whole chart, but perhaps you could pick several bars or whatever. Just my two pennies.