Merlin,
Where are the personal team trader forums? I can't see them on the forum list anymore.
Diallist
Merlin,
Where are the personal team trader forums? I can't see them on the forum list anymore.
Diallist
you're one hell of a person quinn. People like you prosper in life and its easy to see why.Originally Posted by ;
It still is a fantastic idea, but I think it fell flat for 2 reasons.Originally Posted by ;
(1) It was overly organized and appropriate. I think if everybody had just began brainstorming ideas of what they'd love to attempt, and also the the myriad of thoughts that came forth were guided/tempered together with the wisdom of their more experience traders, a couple of good thoughts could have germinated. Once that had happened, THEN the groups could have evolved independently. No criticism of the originator is meant. Everybody admired him as leader and owner of the idea and that I think everybody was just too polite to just hop in and go.
(2) It was just plain overshadowed by the rising star of the forum, James16, and the trading techniques he began sharing recently. Really now, who would like to develop a banana tree whenever there's a Banana Man giving away free bananas? (and paring and slicing them to boot!)
Hmmm....maybe Jim need to change his username to Banana Man, and use the attached avatar
Fiji , this is not a process provoked by forums, this is the process for a great many system growth!! In your quote should you replace the forum members using a single person, this is exactly how I made processes when I was an experienced-newbie. And a number of other individuals do so too, and I presume that is the reason why you see it come out in the forums. This egy is backward to the scientific method, and why ultimately nobody makes any money from the computer system.Originally Posted by ;
I believe the team trading idea might work, but not for creating a quantitative system since quant systems require countless hours of properly conducted research and an experienced eye. Where I really do believe team trading can work is using a discretionary-technical egy (such as ) or a fundamental approach (which we dont find much in Foreign Exchange). If I were to trade based on fundamentals, I would think using a group to bounce ideas back and forth would be a terrific resource.
Hi People
There is only 1 man to blame for the team trading not moving anywhere and that's me.
After I first came up with the thought it was mainly due to all of the negative things happening in the forums at the moment, and I thought we could try to make a positive experience for all.
Filler, Diallist and Merlin did a lot, to aid with the team trading and although the initial response was great, it didn't come through once the TT Forum began.
We really didn't have a lot of response to the polls we had regarding the trading styles people wanted.
Maybe we ought to have narrowed it down and only got started on something.
Since the idea came to me unfortunately/fortunately? I have been quite busy with my business. Far more active than normal this time of year.
In hindsight I wouldn't have started anything had I known that I wasn't going to have the ability to invest the necessary amount of effort and time into it, for this I apologize to everybody.
Also,the limited time that I have been required to check forexintuitive has caught my attention with James16' ribbon and ideas.
He is so far a head of me in my trading, that, like everybody else I am now more interested about what Jim can teach me that what I can learn at this time on my own.
I have no problem stepping aside to follow a better person and look forward to anything, I will learn from anyone here, on this excellent forum.
Quinn
Quinn, I was really impressed by your answer. You seem like the sort of person that I like to work together because you leave your ego at the door, which is rare quality amongst traders.
You know what I was only thinking??? This particular forum IS group trading! Traders are so different in their preferences which is not easy to get a group of traders to concur more than we already do, day to day, with this forum!
A lot of you guys dont realize that I get more out of this forum than anyone. If I have a bad trade or if im burnt on study, visitingforexintuitiveto see my group does wonders
Quinn,Originally Posted by ;
Apologizing for having taken the initiative with a great idea? If I may borrow the words of an infamous poster, Quinn, you crack me up!
Your article shows clearly that you are a man's man; a cut above the rest; demoning a truly impressive show of character. Thank you for the benchmark!
Diallist
[quote]Since it was a forum we had been speaking about it did not seem significant to go into that. Aren't I long winded enough?Originally Posted by ;
I could not agree more. Posting this will possibly help those who have followed or are following this approach, and getting frued. It is the best method to come up with a curve fitted system that will stand a high probability of failure later on.Originally Posted by ;
Perhaps the group trading thought could work. If so it would be nice to discover a model where it has functioned and discover out exactly what made it work. Adapt the version. Odds are it will fail if left to the normal processes that individuals use to system development -- such as fundamentals. I don't equate normal with successful since it is common to fail at this.Originally Posted by ;
FT
PS. If it seems like I'm against the idea of a system develpment ribbon... I'm not. What I'm against is putting up versions that are likely destined to fail. I think that using a formerly successful version to work out of is a critical but often overlooked component of devising a successful undertaking. If planning and structuring such a forum seems like an intelligent idea why not find the most successful one potential and figure out why it was successful and then use that as a model/template to work out of?
I hear fiji. So where would one look for a good model to borrow? What group of people (all differing in thoughts and philosophies) has gotten together in a team enviornment and been able to create something very sucessful?
The olympic games!Originally Posted by ;
Sorry but the answer will not match the question.
Regrettably I do not have an answer right now but it seemed like a fantastic idea to pose the question. I discover that answers come more readily when the ideal question is asked and I believe you've asked it.
Now if we narrow down that trading... not just yet... frequently the best solutions come from borrowing models from another discipline.
I've always noticed that in group dynamics and teambuilding in the event that you do not have a leader you receive a lot of aimless dring. I believe that is 1 reason James16 continues to be successful. I think you need someone with a vision and the ability to impart it in order to bring focus and leadership. I believe it also requires either someone that has been effective or has a very strong vision to achieve something that has not yet been done before. I look through history and there always appears to be a title that was accountable to provding this to any successful group. Chrisopher Columbus springs to mind. It was not a lot of sailors outside to look around.
FT