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Thread: Some Common Sense re: Systems and Software

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    Dear Fellow 4X Followers and Friends:



    Yesterday I had took the time to post a defense of 4X Made Easy on this forum I Knew to be devoted to the discussion of Things pertaining to trading the 4X. This was in reply to many threads or comments entitled 4X Made Easy Scheme and things like 4X Made Easy Scam.



    I'm thoroughly disgusted to inform you that this morning I had been informed that my article had been unceremoniously dumped into the classified section of the forum on the grounds that I was a seller of the solution and that's where it belonged.



    I have not sold a single copy of 4X Made Easy to anybody in my whole life and I don't have any plans to do so either and that I made that plain in the entire body of my remark. It is simply astonishing how controversial a person becomes if one wants to utter a word in defense of apps like these out of their user groups -- and sometimes even inside of their user groups too!



    If by any chance you haven't noticed, this is the computer age, my friends. It strikes me as foolish in the extreme in this day and age not to take advantage of the unbelievable power of computers if they are programmed properly to assist in trading the markets and any and every legal means, method and mode available to us to help us perform this should be fair game. Not only have I used 4X Made Easy and been impressed and pleased with the results obtained but I have also explored a number of different progr and discovered a number also to be ingenious and useful.



    I call 'em like I see 'em. Period. I'm delighted to praise it if a good or service strikes me as great for doing so and I don't search. For instance, I believe that the economic calendar we have at this site is a superb trader's support and that I haven't asked Merlin for penny you to inform others about it as well.



    If someone can show me their actual trading account with $2.2 million dollars in them, like Michael Stewart did, I'm more than pleased to listen to their condemnations of this product that allows him to accumulate such amounts. I personally think product deserves and is entitled to a non invasive defense that.



    If you would like to read the comment that provoked this controversy, it is presently at the ”classified” section of the forum, assuming it is permitted to remain even there. My views are my own, not or if anyone likes them. People who are allowed to read just 1 facet of a controversy are victims of propaganda, pure and simple. The sole view of apps like 4X is the case for the prosecution. This is a crying shame as a lot of folks who take the time and trouble to learn how to use them properly are making a lot of cash with progr like these. Many, however, are not and there are good reasons why not.



    No one has a monopoly on the ”right” way to trade any market. No one has a monopoly on expression and thought. Dealers who shut their minds are not doing themselves any fantastic favors.



    Fair-minded people with open minds listen to either side of a controversy, not just one. That's exactly what a ”forum” is all about. If you'd like to make up your mind (while you still possess the privilege to do so) why not hustle around to the ”classified” section of the forum and read my comment before it gets censored out of there too.



    But if you wish to buy this product, please don't contact me. I don't sell it, I don't have any connection other than as a customer with people who do sell it and I don't have any plans in the future to market it. I just use it and it will help me in my own trading with amazing accuracy.



    Respectfully submitted,



    Yr Fellow 4X Trader,



    hiyo

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    Methinks thou doth protest too much...

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    Hiyo,

    You are welcome on this forum, as are your opinions and views, irrespective of whether anyone disagrees with them or not.

    The moderator was right in his actions to maneuver your first post to the classifieds section because he gave. In terms of my view, you violated rule #2 of the discussion rules.

    RULE #2 / No Endorsements Under 50 Posts
    Members with less than 50 articles are NOT allowed to talk or recommend Forex products or services. This is a critical anti-spam step, and we apologize for any inconvenience it may cause one.

    I consider a defense the same as an endorsement, and therefore a violation of rule #2.

    forexintuitive members are definitely the most considerate and receptive you'll see anywhere. I hope you'll stay around long enough to see this for yourself.

    Diallist

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    Hiyo,
    I browse your record and found it rather interesting please don't be offended by having it transferred to the classified, but I don't know why they moved it there. You gave props to individuals and other sytems too. I also enjoyed your positive attitude to trading
    jb
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Hiyo,

    You are welcome on this forum, as are your opinions and views, regardless of whether anyone disagrees with them or not.

    The moderator was correct in his actions to move your first post to the classifieds section for the reason he gave. As for my view, you violated rule #2 of the forum rules.

    RULE #2 / No Endorsements Beneath 50 Posts
    Members with less than 50 posts are NOT allowed to talk or recommend Forex products or solutions. This is a critical step, and we apologize for any annoyance.

    I consider a defense the same as an endorsement, and so a violation of rule #2.

    forexintuitive members are the most considerate and receptive you'll see anywhere. I hope you'll stay around long enough to see this for yourself.

    Diallist

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    Diallist,

    I find it a peculiar rule that you need 50 posts to have a worthwhile view. I am sure there are members who just like to lurk with very little input, that finally may have some thing of note to inform the world about, but unless they qualify, their comments won't be endorsed by this board.

    I realise that you are trying to keep scammers and the like out, but there has to be a better way. Why don't you have them take it from there and article. From what I could gather there appears to be lots of intelligent people on this board that may spot a scam instantly, or maybe even, there are others that are willing to complete the required due diligence before some of the members get involved. Maybe a standard follow up ost warning members of the possible, and advise to not act until farther DD is performed. Just some ideas!!

    forexintuitiveis a fairly great forum which I vist everyday just about, so doesn't spoil it with too many regulations and rules, and too many policemen stating what could be submitted and what can't be. It is a FORUM. Cheers.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Dear Fellow 4X Followers and Friends:

    If you wish to read the commentary that triggered this controversy, it is presently in the ”classified” section of the forum, assuming it is allowed to remain even there. My views are my own, if anyone else likes them or not. People that are allowed to read only one side of a controversy are victims of propaganda, pure and simple. Apparently, the only permissible perspective of apps like 4X Made Easy here is true for the prosecution. This is a crying shame because a great deal of people who take some trouble and time to learn how to use them properly are earning a great deal of cash with progr such as these. Many aren't and there are good reasons why not.

    No one has a monopoly on the ”right” way to trade any market. No one has a monopoly on free thought and expression. Dealers who close their minds to the facts of a situation aren't doing themselves any fantastic favors.

    Fair-minded people with open minds listen to either side of a controversy, not only one. That's what a ”forum” is all about. If you want to make up your own mind (although you still have the privilege to do this) why not hustle around to the ”classified” section of the discussion and read my commentary before it gets censored from there also.

    But should you wish to purchase this item, please do not contact me. I do not sell it, I don't have any connection other than as a customer with people who do sell it and I don't have any plans in the long run to sell it. I just use it and it helps me in my trading with excellent accuracy.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Yr Fellow 4X Trader,
    hiyo
    There are too many men and women who'd disagree that the system helps them trade with excellent accuracy for the system to be called what it is.

    However to shield the system as a viable one seems legit to me but to state that it makes trading the Foreign Exchange markets easy is an outright lie and anyone defending it has to begin with this. The system itself may be defensible in that it is likely to make a profit using it but does not create trading the Foreign Exchange markets easy. Were it called something else then I do not think there'd be so much culpability on their part. But if you've seen the infomercials and the promotional tactics used to sell it you've got to stop there and determine first if they're deceiving people into thinking things about trading that aren't true. Almost anyone promoting a platform tends to focus on the concept that it can help your trading and that's fair game. I think Forex made EASY goes online. If it is easy why aren't a whole lot more people making money with it? As it isn't straightforward.

    Now it would be good to get another dealer here who's a good and profitable dealer. However you appear to be coming in here with only two posts for your name and actually kicking up a stink. Why not stick around some time and take some opportunity to prove you aren't a troublemaker or a salesman and you may make your point without attempting to stir up things yelling foul and generally ranting about how unfair you've been treated. We've done nothing more than enforce a clearly stated rule. You may even be right on your discussions but like one other bright trader said:

    methinks you protest too much

    FT

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Diallist,

    I find it a strange rule that you need 50 posts to have a worthwhile view. I am sure you will find members who just prefer to lurk with hardly any input, that finally may have something of note to tell the world around, but unless they qualify, their opinions will not be endorsed by this board.

    I am aware that you are working to keep scammers and out the like, but there needs to be a better way. Why not just have them article and then take it from there. From what I can gather there seems to be lots of smart people on this board which can spot a scam instantly, or maybe even, you will find others which are willing to finish the required due diligence before some of those members become involved. Perhaps a standard follow up ost warning members of this potential, and advise not to act until further DD is carried out. Just some thoughts!!

    forexintuitiveis a pretty good forum that I vist everyday just about, so lets not spoil it with a lot of regulations and rules, and too many policemen saying what can be submitted and what can't be. It is a FORUM. Cheers.
    I believe moneytec is a fantastic illuion of what you are talking about Jim. The simple fact is that spammers produce a lot of problem on forums as well. Mostly trashing competitors products and all the defensiveness which goes with it. We like to maintain the conflict to a minimum and also the trading of ideas and promotion of learning at a higher level. That does demand more enforcement. That just appears to be the way this evolved. What Merlin and the users here have chosen as a learning environment is the way it has evolved. Additionally in some circumstances it has given us a frequent enemy instead of each other.

    FT

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